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FUK-ME Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  New member
Indeed, both of them fucked up USA
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
You all aren't workers, because restoration of fire-fighting service is so huge succes, so it's not necessary to mention about private space agencies, world leadership in a car industry, building technology of new types, collossal investments in infrastructure, strongest supercomputers in the world...
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Komatsuzaki-Xingqi Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whenever Obama is faced with a problem he has 3 solutions: 
1. Blame Bush for everything
2. Completely ignore everything
3. Say he's going to do something and then spend the next 3 weeks going to fundraisers and having beer summits with celebrities. 

Thank goodness we have Obama! 
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
about right.

It has worked so far.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
Piss on Reagan. FDR was a REAL President. The best this nation ever had.
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Critic-007 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014
Naw. Reagan was fine save for globalization. FDR helped the country when it needed but only war got use out of the depression and he used a lot of temporary plans. Neither were the best. That title goes to Eisenhower who also had flaws.
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Marzipanzers Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Did you know that FDR actually knew about Pearl Harbor before it happened?  Federal documents were recently declassified, proving that his plan with Japan was to agitate it into attacking, so that he'd have an excuse to declare war without sacrificing popularity.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
I have already discussed this line of counter-reasoning in previous posts. Please view/read the entire comment thread, then make your statement, because repeating myself is very time consuming. Thank you.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
FDR was nearly the worst of all given his Nanny Statism.  Although for dependent, entitled, low self esteem liberals I can see his appeal.

no hippies please.
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Marzipanzers Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd say Woodrow Wilson was one of the worst.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2014
He certainly started the ball rolling downhill.  I just think FDR really added to it and gave it much momentum.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
Right, "worst of all", is a hard argument to make considering he was the ONLY President to be elected 4 times(4 times in a row at that!) and he was elected to his 4th term with the largest popular vote in history.

The man saved this country from the shithole that the 1 percenters left it in.  

Try harder.
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Komatsuzaki-Xingqi Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Right, "worst of all", is a hard argument to make considering he was the ONLY President to be elected 4 times(4 times in a row at that!) and he was elected to his 4th term with the largest popular vote in history."
Just because someone is elected again and again doesn't mean they're doing a great job. Just look at the Obama Admin. 
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner May 7, 2014
Using Obama as a comparing point in this case is invalid.  Obama was only re-elected because the Republicans were stupid enough to name a poster child of the 1% as their presidential nominee in a year when Occupy Wall Street had made the 1% Public Enemy Number 1.

Obama wasn't re-elected because he was popular, he only took something like 54% percent of the popular vote, FDR took 80+.  Obama was re-elected because he was the only option that wasn't a 1 percenter douchebag.

People will always choose the lesser of 2 evils.

Yes, we all know by now that Obama is a cowardly blowhard, who talks a big game but chokes when it counts.  At least we know he's not gonna send our troops off to some backwater shithole of a 5th world country after more imaginary "weapons of mass destruction". Sure he had us pop off a few tomahawks into Libya, but thats just a few button presses.


Let the airbag have his time.  Hillary will get us sorted out in 2016.
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Komatsuzaki-Xingqi Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Romney lost because he just let Obama and the Liberal media walk all over him. Then again, nobody could've beaten someone like Obama, with a cult of personality status and a biased media protecting him from any and all harm. 

It was 51%, actually. FDR won 57%, 60%, 54%, and 53%, respectfully. Those are not anywhere close to "80% of the popular vote". 

We will see. 
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013
So deep is your misunderstanding....

no hippies please.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
Haven't read many History books have you?
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PAPhilly Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
If YOU had read history books you'd see the only real reason the Great Depression ended wasn't because of FDR's social programs (most of which actually failed) but was World War II breaking out. And PLEASE stop scapegoating the 1% an join the 53% actually trying to get our country back on track.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
The ONLY way to get this country back on track, is a bullet in the brain base of every single elected official in Washington D.C.  Line them up and execute them for treason; No need for trials, because they are ALL most assuredly guilty, you need only look at the state of the country to know thats an absolute truth. 

We then elect new leadership, with term limit caps, wage caps, and the requirement that all your wealth and/or assets become frozen and warded to the state until such time as you complete your term; thereby eliminating this "vote for profit" mentality that has got us where we are today. This "Which vote gives ME the most profit."  Instead put things back the way they are supposed to be with "Which vote gives me the better COUNTRY."

But sadly, no-one will EVER have the courage and selflessness to see those aforementioned things done. Too many bleeding hearts that still believe that the "system" can be fixed. Who would rather TALK then DO what HAS to been done.
And so long as that continues to be the prevailing mindset; This country, and this world, will never change.

"How very unfortunate."
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PAPhilly Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
Now, don't get me wrong, I am 100% ALL for term limits and especially wage caps (I also think it's an absolute disgrace that soldiers and other federal employees didn't get paid during the sissy-fit- er, shutdown- and Congress still got paid for doing nothing), and I think voting for profit is especially wrong (not to mention all the surplus bull crap put in Obamacare to gain votes for it), but I think that at the very least they should get a fair trial; SOME of them surely aren't guilty, or at least guilty ENOUGH to warrant capital punishment. Not that I'm against putting a bullet in their brain stems; hell, I'd pull the trigger myself on a few.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
no hippies please.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013
?
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014
He has a fetish for hippies.
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Alpha-12 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
He detained a large number of Japanese-American citizens during World War Two without a trial or Congressional authorization, something even J. Edgar Hoover advised against out of practicality in the light of the FBI having already gotten most of the suspects. Reagan could've been better at certain things, yes, but FDR's blatant and unnecessary violation of the Constitution with the stroke of a pen makes him one of the worst.
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
You would vilify the man over something so trivial. "One of the worse his says."  Despite the fact that the fate of the WORLD* was quite literally at stake. His chose to make a decision for the Greater Good. The American people were out for blood following Pearl Harbor, Japanese blood in particular.
Would the grieving parents whose son was killed by Japanese soldiers be thinking of Justice when they organize a lynch-mob against the Japanese store in town I wonder? I'll wager not. Would it matter that they had lived in America for years or even decades? Again I'll wager not.  Anger with an outlet to be directed on or towards can shake the foundations of a Nation; Indeed Hitler used it to light the World itself aflame. 
By locking them away far from the public eye, he was, 
I dare-say, not punishing them, but PROTECTING* them. He feared  that what I mentioned above could well lead people to doing something they would regret. He feared what happened in Nazi Germany, with the people being led to take their hatred out on a minority undeserving of such ire. By locking them away out of sight and out of mind, he may well have insured that many of them lived to demand reparations that they received.

Morality is grey and grey on such a thing, especially during a World War.  I want to believe that a man great enough to be the ONLY President ever elected to 4 consecutive terms, and elected by the largest popular margin in history; Who took the reigns of a Nation shattered into pieces by economic collapse  and put the pieces back together again. Ordered such an arbitrary act with the best interests of ALL the American people at heart; Especially those of Japanese descent.


And after all of that, after putting Nation back together again, he put safeguards in place to ensure that such a traitorous tragedy as the Great
 Depression would never happen again.

Then Reagan REMOVED those old safeguards. Handed the keys to the vaults of a Nation's prosperity back over to those who only cared about their OWN prosperity.

Thus have we come full circle. 


"Reagan could have done some things better."

The man did NOTHING right! Not ONE THING!  Him and his removing the Profit-limit cap is the reason this country is a shit-hole now. Why greed is justified by the greedy as their "right" to make a profit. Why corporations can charge as much as they want, for whatever they want, and if anyone says otherwise they are communists, or a socialist, or some other such similar bullshit.

And most damning of all? It was one of Reagan's FIRST acts as President; signing the bill that removed the profit-margin cap that FDR set in place 30 years before. That cap is the reason why those 30 years are referred to as America's "Golden Years" when a man could earn a FAIR living for him a his, when America was looked to to lead the Free World into a bright and shining future! When a gallon of milk was fifty-cents, bread was a quarter a loaf, Coke 10 cents a bottle. Gas much the same.  Sure we had our problems, as does any Nation in any Age. But not like this; not like we've become now.

FDR would weep tears of sorrow un-ending to see this Nation now. To see the state of affairs of this country in much the same way as they were when he was elected to his first term as President.

In 70 years we have arrived right back where FDR started, a Nation bending and breaking under the weight of economic mismanagement, and its own bullshit.


"No matter what we learn, no matter what we manage to obtain; Nothing ever changes! People are amazing that way."

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Alpha-12 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
One problems with corporations charging so much in your eyes; the less people who are able to buy their product, the less of a customer base they have. And Herbert Hoover and capitalism didn't cause the Great Depression, Woodrow Wilson ended up allowing the value of the dollar to be inflated with the Federal Reserve being established in 1913.
He did show some balls unlike Jimmy Carter to the world. Sure there was the whole Contras deal, but all it really did was give Saddam a incentive to away from the Arab sheikdoms. I'm not fond of any of the Saudis, but if they fell he'd end up controlling most of the oil in the world. 
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
Yes Corporations charge more because less people are buying their products; The more they charge, the less people will buy. It leads us back to the Profit Margin.

If they charged LESS** more people would buy. But that would mean "only" 60% profit, instead of 75.

Perfect example is gas. They raise the prices, people buy just enough to get them there and back again; They lower the prices by a good margin, 15, 20, cents a gallon. People feel up the tank, and 2 extra jugs.

Less is MORE. It's simple logic.

Its all about GREED.  Greed without rhyme, reason, or explanation; For which the only motive is simply MORE Greed!


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Alpha-12 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013
Corporate executives aren't a cabal of scheming white, heterosexual males plotting to rule the world. They just are in it to make a profit for their shareholders.
Take, for instance, GM. They could make a lot of money selling just Cadillacs, but they make even more selling vehicles for the common man. 
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Rau-Le-Creuset Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013
Yes, why sell just Cadillacs to rich people and make an average amount of profit; When you can make and sell other cars(still for too much) to the common man too? Why the answer is quite simple....*****MORE***** PROFIT!!!!


In other words Greed.  Thank you for validating my point.
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Alpha-12 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Corporations are still motivated to create useful items; what did the Soviet Union invent that was useful for everyday life? Oh wait, nothing.
Suck on that.
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joshuarmour15 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Why doesn't anyone ever mention Eisenhower these days?  He brought us the freeway.
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NurseBoobies Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013
Reagan was a true president. Obama is a communist.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Reagan didn't ride a girl's bike either.
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Jamb-i-am Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013
Regan created jobs. Menial low paying jobs.  So he could say he created jobs.  
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Obama created foodstamps and 16% unemployment and $trillion annual deficits and not one budget.

no hippies please.
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
You do understand that is the Republican party is keeping anything from happening? You can't blame anything on Obama if you aren't ready to admit that it is your own parties fault that there is grid lock in congress.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
If you are going over the cliff, gridlock is a good thing.  Thank you Ted Cruz.

no hippies please.
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Except it was the Republicans who sent us over the cliff when they caused the government to shut down over a law that has already passed.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
Laws can be changed.   Bad laws should be changed.  Obmacare is a tax, a bad law and completely unaffordable.

no hippies please.
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anoncru Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013
You didn't build that!
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aceking90 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
So then what did you build?
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anoncru Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
Obaama: Nothing on your own. Whatever it is you have it was through the help of other people and mostly government!
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aceking90 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
That is not what he meant you parinode nut case. He was saying that nothing in America was ever built by just one person, but instead by thousands of people working together.
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anoncru Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
So what do you think he meant.
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aceking90 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
I just wrote what he actually ment.
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DemonLurch Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'll never understand why you righties use Reagan as your poster boy.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner May 24, 2013
Reality frightens Liberals too much for cognizant thought.

no hippies please.
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DemonLurch Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have to disagree because your logic is very flawed and frankly you come off as a huge twat. However, I do thank you for the llama badge. That was nice. :)
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ProjectCornDog Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They are both jokes. And Iran-Contra was quite a scandal for Reagan. Needless to say, he was ideologically sound but not pragmatic whatsoever. He preached small government, but increased debt. He preached peace, but he armed revolutionaries. He preached civil liberty, but started the Drug War which is both inefficient and costly.

Obviously he was better than Carter. Carter had amazing intentions (or he's a fucking amazing actor) but terrible policies. It was kind of like putting a humble farmer as the head CEO of a major corporation. Sounds nice, but no way that would end well.
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
Libs hate Reagan so. It is one of the reason I love the guy.
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